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Peacock goby--Tateurndina ocellicauda

 
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rainbowbratt



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Peacock goby--Tateurndina ocellicauda Reply with quote

female peacock goby:
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mduros



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely gorgeous!
Take care,
Mary.
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Dirk G.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

below pictures of a young male (left) and a young female (right).



and some details of the young male:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are really nice shots! Thank you very much!

And I see the male is not corrupted...in my line the males have some black in the anal fin Sad
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Dirk G.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikev wrote:
And I see the male is not corrupted...in my line the males have some black in the anal fin Sad
What do you mean with corrupted? I thought up to now, OK, there are different strains, some have, some have not....and I assumed that this would be normal in nature, too?

Do you have deeper knowledge about this topic - why have some males black in their anal fin?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No deeper knowledge; the conjecture (coming from someone else on this forum who would hopefully comment) is that this is corruption as the result of inbreeding.

But if multiple strains exist in nature, then indeed it may be simply that the fish that was originally imported to the US already had this feature.

Did you see males with black in Europe? If yes, this would argue for multiple strains.
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Dirk G.



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only know from other German internet sources, that some people have males with black in the fin, some not. But I do not know, how many times peacock gudgeons have been imported to Germany...and if it is normal in nature......
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting discussion.

The first lot of peacocks that came into Australia
where males with red edge on the anal fin and females with black.

Then they where taken of the import list and over time all the males
we had where showing black on the anal fin.

In the last few years we have been able to import them again
and we now have males with the red edge on the anal fin again so there may be something to inbreeding and males developing the black edging on the anal fin like the females.

Ian
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Luca



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought, but since this has now been verified on 3 continents, I do not think it to be a question of "inbreeding" but rather that in nature perhaps a male with black on the anal fin is not a females first choice? In the an aquarium setting she has to take what you can get. Also, the black may be a dominant (or more dominant) gene, perhaps associated with some other characteristic (color, behavior, etc.). Just a thought.
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lute17



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those "corrupted" ones Mike refers to are mine. When Gary visited me he showed me this as I had never noticed it before. He claimed that it was an aquarium strain phenomenon and that the fish in nature did not show this confusion. But that's to be expected for any fish that is easy to breed and hasn't had the attentions and awareness given to the purity of other species.
Perhaps we can be on the lookout for F0 ocellicauda.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lute17 wrote:
Those "corrupted" ones Mike refers to are mine.


mine descend from Jeff's, but I was not the one who outed him Wink
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rainbowbratt



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any further thoughts on this??
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just made some video of my Gobies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaTGLjCAips
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